logiclife
12-10 03:17 AM
I have been member of IV since Dec 05. Probably since a couple of weeks after it was founded.
In last 2 years, I have seen many ups and downs with this org and there are numerous stories to share in my work with core and grassroots, with lobbyists and congressional staffers, with friends and colleagues.
But what has been happening in few places lately is something that those responsible should be ashamed of.
On saturday IV chapter leader in Texas Needhelp! had organized a local chapter meetup. Now you may ask, oh, another one of those. What do they do anyways?
Well, here is what we do in chapter meetups.
WE WORK.
We find groups that can be formed to meet local congressmen. We refine talking points. We share updates that we dont usually share on website. We help new members get up to speed. We sometimes get local immigration attorneys to answer questions on pro-bono basis (yes, that means free for you) to serve the community. Lawyers get free publicity, we get free legal advise. A symbiotic quid-pro-quo.
This is what happened this weekend in Plano TX (Dallas Suburb).
Now mind you, Dallas area alone has probably atleast 300 registered members. Not to mention the lurkers for whom I have a special message below(at the end).
This is what she (Needhelp) reported after chapter meetup.
Most members who were expected to show up did not. I spent whole morning preparing this, I feel guilty that I made my daughter miss her dance class and then those who had RSVPed didnt show up.
Yep. She missed an extra carricular event important to her daughter for this meetup.
Dont even get me started on those who live 10 miles from Plano Texas and dont bother responding even.
You know, when someone arranges to send you details in email and you know about it, you say you will attend and then you dont, what do you think is going to happen?
IF EAD IS THE END OF THE ROAD FOR YOU...
If EAD is the end of the road for you, then why are you still coming to this website. There are about always 600-700 people on this site during the day and about 300 people at night. Who are these people?
The truth of the matter is, the ones who dont contribute, have stopped contributing, or have never contributed funds, attended events or given anything to this org - but still keep scouring theads - are the people to be pitied. You will always be worried. "Mera kyaa hoga". (what will happen to me). Your journey wont end. Ever. Even after getting GC you will be worried about citizenship. Even after getting citizenship, there will be small itch in your head - what if my citizenship is revoked (yes it can legally happen and has happened to a WWII genocide guy in 2001-2002 timeframe, go google it and ruin your rest of the day).
The truth of the matter is, right now, even after getting EAD, then only action you have taken is either stopped contributing funds, or stopped giving any of your time to this org.
But your life has not changed one bit.
You probably wont even use your EAD or change employers. You will constanly be worried about your namecheck, your fingerprints, your this, your that. You will be worried about new inquiries and RFEs coming on your approved 140 (approved years ago) during 485 processing. (yes that can happen too). You will be worried about accidental rejection of 485 (that's why most of the people wont even use EAD and continue on H1 to preserve option of using appeals process to appeal 485 rejection on H1). You will be worried about USCIS not buying your AC21 portability and sending your RFEs to prove that the ported job is "Same or similar" in nature. You will be worried about being unemployed for few weeks at a wrong time just about when 485 RFE comes and you dont have a letter to show you have a job offer to justify 485 approval.
So basically the struggle hasnt ended. Yes, keeping looking at your EAD in your wallet every 3 minutes, its still miserable.
So why not act to end the misery rather than scour forums and comiserate. Is it that much fun to comiserate and is it that much pain to co-operate?
THE LURKERS ON THIS SITE WHO WILL NEVER REGISTER OR DO ANYTHING AT ALL.
Not to mention how many cowards (yes, cowards who think that by registeration on this website, the USCIS will send a black helicopter to their home and abduct and deport them, the ones who have watched the movie "enemy of the state" too many times and think that there is a Jon Voight out there who has nothing to do both to pluck legal skilled immigrants and throw them out). I have a special message for those lurkers who need this website and visit it everyday but dont have the balls to register, share email and participate in any activity. This isnt about a chapter meetup, or your greencard or even this org. Your reluctance is not a reflection of your over-cautiousness. Its a reflection of your character. You will eventually get greencard, become citizens even, but this kind of cowardly attitude will made you lead a boring, uneventful and mediocre life.
And by the way, if the government was really after you, they would have already gotten to you for browsing this site too. Dont you think they (the black helicopter guys) can find our who you are while you are lurking? Ever heard of IP addresses? If I can find that out then they can do much more.
In last 2 years, I have seen many ups and downs with this org and there are numerous stories to share in my work with core and grassroots, with lobbyists and congressional staffers, with friends and colleagues.
But what has been happening in few places lately is something that those responsible should be ashamed of.
On saturday IV chapter leader in Texas Needhelp! had organized a local chapter meetup. Now you may ask, oh, another one of those. What do they do anyways?
Well, here is what we do in chapter meetups.
WE WORK.
We find groups that can be formed to meet local congressmen. We refine talking points. We share updates that we dont usually share on website. We help new members get up to speed. We sometimes get local immigration attorneys to answer questions on pro-bono basis (yes, that means free for you) to serve the community. Lawyers get free publicity, we get free legal advise. A symbiotic quid-pro-quo.
This is what happened this weekend in Plano TX (Dallas Suburb).
Now mind you, Dallas area alone has probably atleast 300 registered members. Not to mention the lurkers for whom I have a special message below(at the end).
This is what she (Needhelp) reported after chapter meetup.
Most members who were expected to show up did not. I spent whole morning preparing this, I feel guilty that I made my daughter miss her dance class and then those who had RSVPed didnt show up.
Yep. She missed an extra carricular event important to her daughter for this meetup.
Dont even get me started on those who live 10 miles from Plano Texas and dont bother responding even.
You know, when someone arranges to send you details in email and you know about it, you say you will attend and then you dont, what do you think is going to happen?
IF EAD IS THE END OF THE ROAD FOR YOU...
If EAD is the end of the road for you, then why are you still coming to this website. There are about always 600-700 people on this site during the day and about 300 people at night. Who are these people?
The truth of the matter is, the ones who dont contribute, have stopped contributing, or have never contributed funds, attended events or given anything to this org - but still keep scouring theads - are the people to be pitied. You will always be worried. "Mera kyaa hoga". (what will happen to me). Your journey wont end. Ever. Even after getting GC you will be worried about citizenship. Even after getting citizenship, there will be small itch in your head - what if my citizenship is revoked (yes it can legally happen and has happened to a WWII genocide guy in 2001-2002 timeframe, go google it and ruin your rest of the day).
The truth of the matter is, right now, even after getting EAD, then only action you have taken is either stopped contributing funds, or stopped giving any of your time to this org.
But your life has not changed one bit.
You probably wont even use your EAD or change employers. You will constanly be worried about your namecheck, your fingerprints, your this, your that. You will be worried about new inquiries and RFEs coming on your approved 140 (approved years ago) during 485 processing. (yes that can happen too). You will be worried about accidental rejection of 485 (that's why most of the people wont even use EAD and continue on H1 to preserve option of using appeals process to appeal 485 rejection on H1). You will be worried about USCIS not buying your AC21 portability and sending your RFEs to prove that the ported job is "Same or similar" in nature. You will be worried about being unemployed for few weeks at a wrong time just about when 485 RFE comes and you dont have a letter to show you have a job offer to justify 485 approval.
So basically the struggle hasnt ended. Yes, keeping looking at your EAD in your wallet every 3 minutes, its still miserable.
So why not act to end the misery rather than scour forums and comiserate. Is it that much fun to comiserate and is it that much pain to co-operate?
THE LURKERS ON THIS SITE WHO WILL NEVER REGISTER OR DO ANYTHING AT ALL.
Not to mention how many cowards (yes, cowards who think that by registeration on this website, the USCIS will send a black helicopter to their home and abduct and deport them, the ones who have watched the movie "enemy of the state" too many times and think that there is a Jon Voight out there who has nothing to do both to pluck legal skilled immigrants and throw them out). I have a special message for those lurkers who need this website and visit it everyday but dont have the balls to register, share email and participate in any activity. This isnt about a chapter meetup, or your greencard or even this org. Your reluctance is not a reflection of your over-cautiousness. Its a reflection of your character. You will eventually get greencard, become citizens even, but this kind of cowardly attitude will made you lead a boring, uneventful and mediocre life.
And by the way, if the government was really after you, they would have already gotten to you for browsing this site too. Dont you think they (the black helicopter guys) can find our who you are while you are lurking? Ever heard of IP addresses? If I can find that out then they can do much more.
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REQUIRE_GC
06-27 07:31 AM
They hushed up and approved my EAD in 20 days. Why ???? 'cos So they don't hit Jun'30 and give 2 years. They wanted to milk another 680 from me so they hushed up and sent me the 1 year EAD in 20 days.
I share your Pain, but I must congratulate you on receipt of your RENEWD EAD.
My case, I am planning a trip to INDIA, but still waiting for EAD to be received
Enjoy man!!!!!
I share your Pain, but I must congratulate you on receipt of your RENEWD EAD.
My case, I am planning a trip to INDIA, but still waiting for EAD to be received
Enjoy man!!!!!
eb3_nepa
05-25 08:08 PM
Hi Guys,
I was looking at the AP renewal instructions. It says:
1. If you are in the United States, you must attach:
a. A copy of any document issued to you by USCIS showing your present status in the United States; and
b. An explanation or other evidence showing the circumstances that warrant issuance of an advance parole document; or
c. If you are an applicant for adjustment of status, a copy of a USCIS receipt as evidence that you filed the adjustment application;
d. If you are traveling to Canada to apply for an immigrant visa, a copy of the U.S. consular appointment letter.
So what I gather from this is that they need:
a) Our H1B status papers and the previous copies of the advanced parole documents.
b) A letter stating why we need the advanced parole.
c) The I-485 receipt copies.
Now it DOES NOT say anything about the photographs if you are filing within the US.
Can someone who has applied for the Advanced Parole (NOT the EAD), please share their experience and what documents are needed. The EAD filing seems to be elaborately covered.
Thanks.
I was looking at the AP renewal instructions. It says:
1. If you are in the United States, you must attach:
a. A copy of any document issued to you by USCIS showing your present status in the United States; and
b. An explanation or other evidence showing the circumstances that warrant issuance of an advance parole document; or
c. If you are an applicant for adjustment of status, a copy of a USCIS receipt as evidence that you filed the adjustment application;
d. If you are traveling to Canada to apply for an immigrant visa, a copy of the U.S. consular appointment letter.
So what I gather from this is that they need:
a) Our H1B status papers and the previous copies of the advanced parole documents.
b) A letter stating why we need the advanced parole.
c) The I-485 receipt copies.
Now it DOES NOT say anything about the photographs if you are filing within the US.
Can someone who has applied for the Advanced Parole (NOT the EAD), please share their experience and what documents are needed. The EAD filing seems to be elaborately covered.
Thanks.
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unitednations
03-22 09:45 PM
united nations...u have been saying what u just said for many years now. i remember ur epic fight with saras on that issue that caused u to leave immigration portal.
i think this modification of the interpretation of the law is mainly to prevent the massive loss of numbers. I think the DOS now realizes that USCIS cannot effectively handle processing of the massive release of visa numbers in the last quarter, thereby they are doing it in an incremental manner so that the demand is handled effectively (USCIS standards effectively).
I agree; the law definitively leaves no room for error. If all the visas are held back until fourth quarter then there is a significant chance that visas will go unused.
However; it isn't in uscis/dos discretion to make such decisions on a whim for process improvement.
In the orgnizations we work in; there is a big consideration whether the new project or idea is feasible in the current environment. If it isn't then the project/idea gets shelved because it's not doable. However; congress and various regulatory bodies do not give such luxury to uscis. They don't ask them if the implementation of a law or creation of a law will fit into their system or workflow.
At a high level; country quotas in EB do not make a whole lot of sense. I have tried to figure out why they are there; how companies and candidates use EB greencards. Conclusion, I came up with is that in a lot of ways EB is a way to circumvent family base immigration. Many peoples parents have greencards, brothers, sisters, friends, etc; and they realize that it takes too long to get greencard through family base and the fastest way is to come through h-1b and go through EB route. Also; companies; company owners will favor their own people in filing h-1b's and greencards and then you have a situation where certain people are favored due to their nationality or connection. I firmly believe that uscis and the regulatory authorities understand this and hence the reason why there is country quotas.
i think this modification of the interpretation of the law is mainly to prevent the massive loss of numbers. I think the DOS now realizes that USCIS cannot effectively handle processing of the massive release of visa numbers in the last quarter, thereby they are doing it in an incremental manner so that the demand is handled effectively (USCIS standards effectively).
I agree; the law definitively leaves no room for error. If all the visas are held back until fourth quarter then there is a significant chance that visas will go unused.
However; it isn't in uscis/dos discretion to make such decisions on a whim for process improvement.
In the orgnizations we work in; there is a big consideration whether the new project or idea is feasible in the current environment. If it isn't then the project/idea gets shelved because it's not doable. However; congress and various regulatory bodies do not give such luxury to uscis. They don't ask them if the implementation of a law or creation of a law will fit into their system or workflow.
At a high level; country quotas in EB do not make a whole lot of sense. I have tried to figure out why they are there; how companies and candidates use EB greencards. Conclusion, I came up with is that in a lot of ways EB is a way to circumvent family base immigration. Many peoples parents have greencards, brothers, sisters, friends, etc; and they realize that it takes too long to get greencard through family base and the fastest way is to come through h-1b and go through EB route. Also; companies; company owners will favor their own people in filing h-1b's and greencards and then you have a situation where certain people are favored due to their nationality or connection. I firmly believe that uscis and the regulatory authorities understand this and hence the reason why there is country quotas.
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duncanidaho
07-27 01:14 AM
Folks,
It is very important for everyone to comprehend the difference between a litigation attorney & your regular immigration attorney.
Your regular immigration attorney understands immigration law and will file your paper work, follow up with CIS, etc. Litigation attorneys handle litigation - they argue in court and fight for you.
The two are completely different practice areas from what I have seen. Most of the cases that we come across are the regular Immigration Attorneys who will not go to trial if things get tricky.
Please remember this.
It is very important for everyone to comprehend the difference between a litigation attorney & your regular immigration attorney.
Your regular immigration attorney understands immigration law and will file your paper work, follow up with CIS, etc. Litigation attorneys handle litigation - they argue in court and fight for you.
The two are completely different practice areas from what I have seen. Most of the cases that we come across are the regular Immigration Attorneys who will not go to trial if things get tricky.
Please remember this.
santb1975
06-25 11:33 AM
Check your state chapter boards for an urgent action item
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neerajkandhari
06-30 05:49 PM
And the worst thing is they approve it from the date tey approve it to 1 year after..My EAD which was expiring on 2th Sep'2008 was approved until Jun 20th 2009. Basically I got a 9 months extension...What a plan...
I got my card today
the old ead was expiring on sept 2008
the new is expiring on sept 2009
I got my card today
the old ead was expiring on sept 2008
the new is expiring on sept 2009
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psvk
04-30 11:15 AM
$100
Receipt ID: 7B581316H2671372C
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gconmymind
04-30 12:37 PM
and with all the pledged money at 10K, it should get us past $10.5K. Thanks all.
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ganguteli
04-10 03:21 PM
Chanakya,
You are totally naked on this thread. People have stripped you and opened your cupboard. I cannot imagine how shameless some people are.
You are totally naked on this thread. People have stripped you and opened your cupboard. I cannot imagine how shameless some people are.
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vrkgali
07-18 04:14 PM
I applied for my labor during sept 2002.Just before my labor getting cleared, they started this BEC 's and sent my application to PBEC and it it was cleared during 2006 April.( after 3 and 1/2 years)
During this period I got one year of extension for my H1B and sent papers to the attorney for I-140.That stupid attorney did not file my I-140 for the next 4 months just like that.( god only knows what happened bw, my employer and attorney). and at last we changed the attorney and applied for I-140 during 2006 November. and during 2007 Feb I put my I-140 for premium processing.
Before I get RFE for the premium processing , the USCIS mistook my employer name with other employer and denied my I-140.And again After the attorney clarified them about the RFE , they Put my I-140 into Abeyance state. That means I can not File for I-485 because my I-140 is not in pending state and I can not apply for I-140 again becuase I-140 is not in denied state.
And for the past 3 months My I-140 is in neither pending , nor Denied state and my attorney does not even answer for the question whether I can Apply for the H1B extension.
all these years I am very patient , but once the dates are current , I am lieing , If I say that I am not jealous of those who is able to apply for I-485 , who came to USA in Jan 2007.
During this period I got one year of extension for my H1B and sent papers to the attorney for I-140.That stupid attorney did not file my I-140 for the next 4 months just like that.( god only knows what happened bw, my employer and attorney). and at last we changed the attorney and applied for I-140 during 2006 November. and during 2007 Feb I put my I-140 for premium processing.
Before I get RFE for the premium processing , the USCIS mistook my employer name with other employer and denied my I-140.And again After the attorney clarified them about the RFE , they Put my I-140 into Abeyance state. That means I can not File for I-485 because my I-140 is not in pending state and I can not apply for I-140 again becuase I-140 is not in denied state.
And for the past 3 months My I-140 is in neither pending , nor Denied state and my attorney does not even answer for the question whether I can Apply for the H1B extension.
all these years I am very patient , but once the dates are current , I am lieing , If I say that I am not jealous of those who is able to apply for I-485 , who came to USA in Jan 2007.
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MLS
09-25 02:06 PM
Hi Nat,
Fragomen took about 6 months in getting "prevailing wage info" for my case in 2001. My manager ( Canadian who had gone through US GC process himself) finally talked to them and asked them to file without waiting for DOL's reply on prevailing wage. (That was a risk but we agreed to take it at that point)
That six months delay costed me 6 years in GC processing ! But thanks to my manager , otherwise I dont know how many more years I would have waited.(One of my co-worker still awaits his labor cert !)
The big law firm goes by predefined steps , which are probably the safest way for most cases but may not be the fastest way. You need somebody who has been through this process and can understand and asks good questions to lawyers and can help lawyers to think for your perticular case. Check if you have somebody in your org to do that.
All the best.
My company started the PERM process for me about 2.5 months ago. I contacted Fragomen about 1.5 months after approvals within the company and they said they are working on establishing min requirements for the position. I then contacted them 3 weeks after that day and they said they have established the requirement and will request the DOL for prevailing wage info (this was 2 weeks ago). After which they are going to start the recruitment process. So I'm not sure if the time line is okay or should I be chasing them more frequently? Please advise.
Regards
Nat
Fragomen took about 6 months in getting "prevailing wage info" for my case in 2001. My manager ( Canadian who had gone through US GC process himself) finally talked to them and asked them to file without waiting for DOL's reply on prevailing wage. (That was a risk but we agreed to take it at that point)
That six months delay costed me 6 years in GC processing ! But thanks to my manager , otherwise I dont know how many more years I would have waited.(One of my co-worker still awaits his labor cert !)
The big law firm goes by predefined steps , which are probably the safest way for most cases but may not be the fastest way. You need somebody who has been through this process and can understand and asks good questions to lawyers and can help lawyers to think for your perticular case. Check if you have somebody in your org to do that.
All the best.
My company started the PERM process for me about 2.5 months ago. I contacted Fragomen about 1.5 months after approvals within the company and they said they are working on establishing min requirements for the position. I then contacted them 3 weeks after that day and they said they have established the requirement and will request the DOL for prevailing wage info (this was 2 weeks ago). After which they are going to start the recruitment process. So I'm not sure if the time line is okay or should I be chasing them more frequently? Please advise.
Regards
Nat
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ram04
09-24 11:40 PM
Thanks for that info.
I am planing for Info pass next week if I dont get notice by then.
How can they issue EAD and AP approvals a day before for same 485 - What a crazy system ?
Thanks again
I am planing for Info pass next week if I dont get notice by then.
How can they issue EAD and AP approvals a day before for same 485 - What a crazy system ?
Thanks again
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gaz
04-10 02:21 PM
But when i am told that I dont have access to this thread or that thread because I am not a donor...I do have the right to question if this organization actually represents all immigrants or just the donors?? If the motto of IV becomes "Change for fairness and justice (For Donors Only)" then it would make a lot more sense to me.
are you asking for access to threads based on the motto? Now that is like the beggars feeling entitled to others money, or illegals felling entitled to citizenship.
Lose the feeling of entitlement - its only going to make you look like a loser.
I did like the idea of "earned" access to forums. So if someone has sent "X" no. of faxes through IV or contributed by actively and noticeably and is recommended by "X" no. of people they should have access to paid forums for a defined timespan (eg. earn 1 months access by sending faxes) Letters are not really verifiable so not adding this here. Going the earned path would not alienate many members who may not have contributed recently - but nevertheless are still contributing otherwise. People who have contributed in the past can be retroactively given access for a month for every $25 they've contributed.
are you asking for access to threads based on the motto? Now that is like the beggars feeling entitled to others money, or illegals felling entitled to citizenship.
Lose the feeling of entitlement - its only going to make you look like a loser.
I did like the idea of "earned" access to forums. So if someone has sent "X" no. of faxes through IV or contributed by actively and noticeably and is recommended by "X" no. of people they should have access to paid forums for a defined timespan (eg. earn 1 months access by sending faxes) Letters are not really verifiable so not adding this here. Going the earned path would not alienate many members who may not have contributed recently - but nevertheless are still contributing otherwise. People who have contributed in the past can be retroactively given access for a month for every $25 they've contributed.
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Tito_ortiz
12-01 11:07 AM
I agree. I realized that I was paying too much for my MBA from a top 15 school and I decided to put on hold for that exactly same reason. I received job offers from employers which were willing to pay 100% of the MBA. Of course I had to decline due to my status.
Also, interest rates in private loan banks are very high. I thought more about it and decided to put the damn MBA studies on hold and wait until I can change jobs and let an employer pay the thing for me.
My advice is for people to watch out carefully. MBA can get very expensive and you may just actually making your hosts happier, not necessarily you !
Guys,
Improving your own skills by doing Double MBA would not be gandhigiri.
A course in history will teach us what Gandhi did for rights of Indians in South Africa, who were oppressed and had to pay more taxes than anyone else. He fought for those people. If we could even manage to perform a percentile of that , we maybe able to get our community's problems resolved. I am sure the people working in farms in SA had no rights and were treated like slaves, we however, are in much better position and different times than the late 19th century. Not sure we can get a Gandhi to lead us, but if we strive for Unity among the Retrogressed community we can defintely improve our situation.
Also, interest rates in private loan banks are very high. I thought more about it and decided to put the damn MBA studies on hold and wait until I can change jobs and let an employer pay the thing for me.
My advice is for people to watch out carefully. MBA can get very expensive and you may just actually making your hosts happier, not necessarily you !
Guys,
Improving your own skills by doing Double MBA would not be gandhigiri.
A course in history will teach us what Gandhi did for rights of Indians in South Africa, who were oppressed and had to pay more taxes than anyone else. He fought for those people. If we could even manage to perform a percentile of that , we maybe able to get our community's problems resolved. I am sure the people working in farms in SA had no rights and were treated like slaves, we however, are in much better position and different times than the late 19th century. Not sure we can get a Gandhi to lead us, but if we strive for Unity among the Retrogressed community we can defintely improve our situation.
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justice4all
07-21 02:05 PM
Here I want to make clear, FIFO for taking labor applications and sending ad instructions not for approving. I know depending on compilcation of cases(I think), some cases with PD 2005 get approved fast and cases with PD 2003 are taking longer. I dont know why all these mess in DOL, for taking the labor applications and sending ad instructions.
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vine93
03-05 01:03 AM
I also got the same letter from USCIS today.
Where is the core who advised us to fax letter to USCIS. Please let us know what the action plan is ?
I am ready for $25.
Where is the core who advised us to fax letter to USCIS. Please let us know what the action plan is ?
I am ready for $25.
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Openarms
03-05 11:02 AM
Not so fast buddy. We are not on forums 24/7
The thread was posted last night and how can you expect instant reply.:D
In future if someone wants to reach us if you have any question, it is better to directly contact us rather than posting on the forum as we do not read every post.
A couple of people who got the letters have already emailed us and let us all review the letter to see if we are getting what we need from this request. Let us all agree if we want to pursue this and contribute towards this. Once we have enough people, we can go forward.
This is one of the positive steps that we have taken here and glad that we got the response from CIS. So now IV needs to get expose this letter as public as possible to get the USCIS tactics out (senate, congress, president, dhs head and all in the world). And if need be that we all need to contribute to the money they are asking. This is the good one.
The thread was posted last night and how can you expect instant reply.:D
In future if someone wants to reach us if you have any question, it is better to directly contact us rather than posting on the forum as we do not read every post.
A couple of people who got the letters have already emailed us and let us all review the letter to see if we are getting what we need from this request. Let us all agree if we want to pursue this and contribute towards this. Once we have enough people, we can go forward.
This is one of the positive steps that we have taken here and glad that we got the response from CIS. So now IV needs to get expose this letter as public as possible to get the USCIS tactics out (senate, congress, president, dhs head and all in the world). And if need be that we all need to contribute to the money they are asking. This is the good one.
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Macaca
09-14 02:05 PM
I have been thinking about whether to attend the rally or not from past few weeks.
Attending the rally would require me to take a day off. Finally today without thinking twice I just went to my manager asked if I can take day off on 9/18 instead compensate the work in the following saturday. It was approved and I am attending the rally on 9/18!
I am feeling so good now.
No one who, like me,
conjures up the
most evil of those
half-tamed demons that
inhabit the human beast, and
seeks to wrestle with them,
can expect to
come through the struggle
unscathed
Sigmund Freud
Attending the rally would require me to take a day off. Finally today without thinking twice I just went to my manager asked if I can take day off on 9/18 instead compensate the work in the following saturday. It was approved and I am attending the rally on 9/18!
I am feeling so good now.
No one who, like me,
conjures up the
most evil of those
half-tamed demons that
inhabit the human beast, and
seeks to wrestle with them,
can expect to
come through the struggle
unscathed
Sigmund Freud
senthil1
09-12 05:35 PM
For President immigration is one of the important issue but not the top most priority. In that high skilled immigration is a part of the immigration. EB reform is just a very small for them compared many challenges in the country. But any President will not Veto any high skilled immigration bill if passed in congress. So congress needs to be satisfied in this issue. I think congress has more power in dealing with immigration.
You said you dont want to get into the discussion on who is better and yet by explicitly mentioning who you think is better, it seems discussion is started :D Being a Friday evening - work slow and I cant help but jump in :)
American presidential politics are highly media driven. When I came to this country and started following politics closely (12+ years ago), initially I was fascinated by all the discussions and transparent process etc. But over the years got convinced that its all a facade - election process here is as much flawed as in a "third world" country. Election 2000 is the biggest proof. Even worse, here people are easily swayed by non-issues. Media creates hype and media creates perceptions about a candidate, real issues and concerns takes back seat most of the times. Just see now - for last couple weeks everyone is talking about a VP candidate - the power of a VP is limited but yet everyone is talking about her and almost forgot the presidential candidate of the same party. The republican favoring press wants to project her as the next savior (which unfortunately seems to be working) and whip up their cadre. The democratic favoring press wants to project her apparent inexperience etc. We may soon see who is going to win in their "spin". In general republicans are pretty good in spin stories and project an apparently dumb candidate as someone with "whom you can have a beer with" and get him elected; now they might even succeed in projecting a 30+ year senator who backs current administration as an agent of change !!?!!! and people might even fall for that argument. Of course there are spin stories on the other side too.
Anyways, whoever wins this time - I think our situation wont change much and might even get worse. As the economy get worse - it would be very difficult to get any new bill favoring us (note I am talking about EB green cards not H1B). There is already a good effort by likes of numbersusa and programmers guild to project HR5882 as if it will kills jobs. As we know HR5882 is only for recapturing unused greencards the beneficiaries of which are mostly in this country already. It should have been a completely non-controversial bill - if we can see the resistance its facing we can imagine about any other bill that propose increase of GC numbers or something such. So prospects for anything better happening is very poor irrespective of who the next president is - that's my reading on this.
You said you dont want to get into the discussion on who is better and yet by explicitly mentioning who you think is better, it seems discussion is started :D Being a Friday evening - work slow and I cant help but jump in :)
American presidential politics are highly media driven. When I came to this country and started following politics closely (12+ years ago), initially I was fascinated by all the discussions and transparent process etc. But over the years got convinced that its all a facade - election process here is as much flawed as in a "third world" country. Election 2000 is the biggest proof. Even worse, here people are easily swayed by non-issues. Media creates hype and media creates perceptions about a candidate, real issues and concerns takes back seat most of the times. Just see now - for last couple weeks everyone is talking about a VP candidate - the power of a VP is limited but yet everyone is talking about her and almost forgot the presidential candidate of the same party. The republican favoring press wants to project her as the next savior (which unfortunately seems to be working) and whip up their cadre. The democratic favoring press wants to project her apparent inexperience etc. We may soon see who is going to win in their "spin". In general republicans are pretty good in spin stories and project an apparently dumb candidate as someone with "whom you can have a beer with" and get him elected; now they might even succeed in projecting a 30+ year senator who backs current administration as an agent of change !!?!!! and people might even fall for that argument. Of course there are spin stories on the other side too.
Anyways, whoever wins this time - I think our situation wont change much and might even get worse. As the economy get worse - it would be very difficult to get any new bill favoring us (note I am talking about EB green cards not H1B). There is already a good effort by likes of numbersusa and programmers guild to project HR5882 as if it will kills jobs. As we know HR5882 is only for recapturing unused greencards the beneficiaries of which are mostly in this country already. It should have been a completely non-controversial bill - if we can see the resistance its facing we can imagine about any other bill that propose increase of GC numbers or something such. So prospects for anything better happening is very poor irrespective of who the next president is - that's my reading on this.
brb2
09-27 12:35 AM
I think it is important to maintain diversity in the overall immigration. However the immigration law has never resulted in achieving diversity. In the period 1900-1910, immigrants came from Italy (22%), Austria (20%) and Russia (18%). In the 1950-1960 period Germany provided 20% of immigrants. In the 1991-2000 period Mexico provided almost 22% of immigrants. In the FY 2005, Mexico provided around 161,000 immigrants (around 17%) of immigrants. It is easy to fix a quota for those immigration categories where visa numbers are limited such as for employment. However spouses and minor children of naturalized citizens have no waiting period. So it will be very hard to control the immigration percentages based on country of origin unless there is a quota for US citizen spouses, and children of US citizens wantin to immigrate!
The problem here is that we don't have a country quota for foreign students and H1Bs. Thus when these people try to become permanent residents then the quota's are applied and that is the core problem. My take is that country quota should not be applied for employment based immigration. Employers should not be forced in to an affirmative action plan but rather hire the right person for the job.
Source for my above data, if you like to do some weekend reading:
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/92948.pdf
The problem here is that we don't have a country quota for foreign students and H1Bs. Thus when these people try to become permanent residents then the quota's are applied and that is the core problem. My take is that country quota should not be applied for employment based immigration. Employers should not be forced in to an affirmative action plan but rather hire the right person for the job.
Source for my above data, if you like to do some weekend reading:
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/92948.pdf
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