gunabcd
07-17 10:09 PM
Some of the core members are also stuck in BEC. But they still worked selfleshly. And don't preach injustice to me, I came here to study in 1999, got one labor (PD 2002) rejected on technical grounds, went in for other labor PD 2005, so my situation is probably worse than you.
Are you the guy who came up with a stupid idea of creating an entire thread for banning people? You probably don't even know the definition of Freedom and Injustice and you say you studied in US (did you pass?). and hey my earlier post was not a response to you.
Are you the guy who came up with a stupid idea of creating an entire thread for banning people? You probably don't even know the definition of Freedom and Injustice and you say you studied in US (did you pass?). and hey my earlier post was not a response to you.
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Hinglish
03-13 05:50 PM
Well...I am one of us stuck in EB3. I do qualify for EB2 but my employer choose to file it under EB3. I recently invoked AC21 and moved over to a new employer on my EAD. Is there a way I can ask my new employer if they can file new I140 under EB2 and change my category to EB2?
Sorry , but I dont think that it is possible to do that ...
EB3 vs EB2 classifications depend on Job Description ie the description and education, experience requirement given at the labor certification stage.
You can get labor certification which would satisfy EB2 class requirements and apply under EB3 for I140 .... but not the other way around. ...
That means starting from scratch with PERM with a new Labor... loosing PD and back to square one ... obviously not worth it
Sorry , but I dont think that it is possible to do that ...
EB3 vs EB2 classifications depend on Job Description ie the description and education, experience requirement given at the labor certification stage.
You can get labor certification which would satisfy EB2 class requirements and apply under EB3 for I140 .... but not the other way around. ...
That means starting from scratch with PERM with a new Labor... loosing PD and back to square one ... obviously not worth it
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prasadn
07-23 07:34 PM
Hi,
I live in the Bay Area and my labor application is stuck with DBEC. In March 2007, we got recruitment instructions and ad was posted in April 2007. We got zero resumes and results were sent back to DBEC on May 16th, 2007. Still have not heard from DBEC and looks like I will miss the Aug 17th deadline for July VB and god knows when I can move to the next stage.
Thanks,
Prasad
I live in the Bay Area and my labor application is stuck with DBEC. In March 2007, we got recruitment instructions and ad was posted in April 2007. We got zero resumes and results were sent back to DBEC on May 16th, 2007. Still have not heard from DBEC and looks like I will miss the Aug 17th deadline for July VB and god knows when I can move to the next stage.
Thanks,
Prasad
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Devils_Advocate
03-06 02:54 AM
They wrote "ass" instead of "all". Is it a freudian slip or they are deliberately calling us names on the sly :)
Dude, if you see the keyboard, s and L are on oppposite ends, so no way Ass was a typo on ALL, LMAO, USCIS taking out their frustration on ass i mean us ;)
Dude, if you see the keyboard, s and L are on oppposite ends, so no way Ass was a typo on ALL, LMAO, USCIS taking out their frustration on ass i mean us ;)
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willgetgc2005
07-17 07:42 PM
We talk about how we contribute to the US economy. I don't think there are buyers to this argument. If there were, we would have seen something similar to what happened to the nurses. We would have seen some concrete relief by now. With all the great work IV did and its members did, there is nothing.
Let us fact it. We need GCs and we have waited for x years. Now that only seems to be illusion that may happen some day, many years from now. Have we contributed to this country. Yes in many folds.
Will the US govt provide relief. Probably not. They will certainly
raise H1bs as they need more contributors to SS. All this SKIL etc is just to keep us going for a few more years. After a few more years, many will give up, but get used to living the way we live now. We just wont have the energy to complain. After a while it is human nature, at least in most cases to accept. If we accept we will continue here hoping, some day GC will happen. I believe the majority will fall into this category. There maybe a few who will leave. But then there will be thousand more new H1b coming in to do the work, chasing the GC illusion, contributing to SS, buying cars, paying rents keeping the economy going. The lawyers will make money. Employers will get indentured workers. The economy will benefit from their productivity. So all concerned except you and me will be OK.
They understand the circle of life better than you and I do. It is about time we understand this. Once this sinks in, we will make the right choice, whet ever that maybe.
Let us fact it. We need GCs and we have waited for x years. Now that only seems to be illusion that may happen some day, many years from now. Have we contributed to this country. Yes in many folds.
Will the US govt provide relief. Probably not. They will certainly
raise H1bs as they need more contributors to SS. All this SKIL etc is just to keep us going for a few more years. After a few more years, many will give up, but get used to living the way we live now. We just wont have the energy to complain. After a while it is human nature, at least in most cases to accept. If we accept we will continue here hoping, some day GC will happen. I believe the majority will fall into this category. There maybe a few who will leave. But then there will be thousand more new H1b coming in to do the work, chasing the GC illusion, contributing to SS, buying cars, paying rents keeping the economy going. The lawyers will make money. Employers will get indentured workers. The economy will benefit from their productivity. So all concerned except you and me will be OK.
They understand the circle of life better than you and I do. It is about time we understand this. Once this sinks in, we will make the right choice, whet ever that maybe.
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iqube00
10-16 09:24 AM
Inspite of this rumor, they sent us urgent email, that they are working overnight this weekend and if possible they wud like to dispatch our 485 papers before saturday noon for Monday am delivery at uscis. We were impressed. They even didnt asked for the attorney fees in this moment , we just submitted the filing fees.
www.gotcherlaw.com, in Los Angeles, speak to Mr Ron Gotcher, just in case.
Whereas one of my friends attorney is not in a hurry, rather king of gaveup and waiting for the monday/tuesday developments.
best,
I second this recomendation. Ron and all his paralegals are great folks. Right during the fiasco, they were responding to all my emails promptly. Ron kept sending email updates about what was going on. When all my friends lawyers were not picking up the phone or answering emails, Ron was sending out emails to all the clients and was encouraging them to email him and call him with questions. I would highly recomend this law firm to anyone.
www.gotcherlaw.com, in Los Angeles, speak to Mr Ron Gotcher, just in case.
Whereas one of my friends attorney is not in a hurry, rather king of gaveup and waiting for the monday/tuesday developments.
best,
I second this recomendation. Ron and all his paralegals are great folks. Right during the fiasco, they were responding to all my emails promptly. Ron kept sending email updates about what was going on. When all my friends lawyers were not picking up the phone or answering emails, Ron was sending out emails to all the clients and was encouraging them to email him and call him with questions. I would highly recomend this law firm to anyone.
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hai_yeh_gc
06-10 04:35 PM
EB3 sucks as usual. Just to Feb '02 by end of FY-2010? :mad:
Now I'm not even sure if I'll get it ( PD Jul 02 ) in FY-2011
Happy for all you EB2 guys who will be current soon..
Enjoy ur green. :D
Now I'm not even sure if I'll get it ( PD Jul 02 ) in FY-2011
Happy for all you EB2 guys who will be current soon..
Enjoy ur green. :D
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ps57002
08-04 08:16 AM
I've been working with David Frenkel at Frenkel, Heshkowitz, Shafran in NY. Been with him through my H1B process and now my PERM, will continue with him. He seems very knowledgeable. He's a very very busy man though so it's a little difficult to 'talk' to him. The paralegal who worked on my PERM is reason I actually got it done...my employer is very unresponsive.
So overall I think they are good. I have called to ask questions, emailed, gone in for consultations, never charged extra. All a set fee, expensive somewhat, but it's broken in steps, like pre PERM, pre I40 etc...so guess it's almost guaranteed
ANyone else deal with them?
So overall I think they are good. I have called to ask questions, emailed, gone in for consultations, never charged extra. All a set fee, expensive somewhat, but it's broken in steps, like pre PERM, pre I40 etc...so guess it's almost guaranteed
ANyone else deal with them?
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needhelp!
02-28 06:04 PM
Very nice going..
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sc3
07-18 02:41 PM
sc3, First of all let me express understanding of your agony and disappointment. If I were in your situation, probably I'll be talking like you.:)
You recite several unfair things. Who said there aren't any unfair things around? IV has feeble power when comapred to the massive muscle and money power of various lobbies who are stacked against us. In this context saying things that could undermine the unity of IV members can only further undermine any future efforts. Are you saying IV should "rat out" these people who have fake jobs and work for body shops?
A very dissproportionaely large number of EB3ROW and EB3I were adjudicated last June 2007, one ecould say at the expense of EB2-I. It is not unreasonable for EB2-I members to feel this way.
The question should be what to do now? There is no other way than lobbying for recapture bill.
Legal,
I guess I got carried away with so many people saying that Eb3 are pained only because EB2 is getting ahead -- which is blatantly untrue. Most of us are pained because of the long wait, and the prospect of more long wait to come. Eb2s getting or not getting their GCs doesn't necessarily register on our emotional scale, when we are looking at our own situation.
Further what really gets to me (putting it in a civil way), is that some people make use of obviously illegal things and then lecture us that we should be "happy for them" and "we should support them" (maybe they are not the same people, but some part of the problem can be attributed to this situation).
Well if the jobs are fake, then IV need not rat them out, but with people saying the law is implemented right, maybe we should help in implementing it in a more "righter" fashion. Why not? I was just trying to point out that people who are poo-pooing us need to look at their own legal standpoint (that is not to say that I consider any of the poster who is going vitriolic against us to have used that method).
A very dissproportionaely large number of EB3ROW and EB3I were adjudicated last June 2007, one ecould say at the expense of EB2-I. It is not unreasonable for EB2-I members to feel this way.
Sorry, you probably did not put it that way, but it comes out as, we suffered yesterday, so you guys should suffer today. If that is the case, then solving the immigration issue should be the last on our minds, since we have suffered this long, maybe all the future applicants should suffer just as much.
But I am sure you did not mean it that way.
You recite several unfair things. Who said there aren't any unfair things around? IV has feeble power when comapred to the massive muscle and money power of various lobbies who are stacked against us. In this context saying things that could undermine the unity of IV members can only further undermine any future efforts. Are you saying IV should "rat out" these people who have fake jobs and work for body shops?
A very dissproportionaely large number of EB3ROW and EB3I were adjudicated last June 2007, one ecould say at the expense of EB2-I. It is not unreasonable for EB2-I members to feel this way.
The question should be what to do now? There is no other way than lobbying for recapture bill.
Legal,
I guess I got carried away with so many people saying that Eb3 are pained only because EB2 is getting ahead -- which is blatantly untrue. Most of us are pained because of the long wait, and the prospect of more long wait to come. Eb2s getting or not getting their GCs doesn't necessarily register on our emotional scale, when we are looking at our own situation.
Further what really gets to me (putting it in a civil way), is that some people make use of obviously illegal things and then lecture us that we should be "happy for them" and "we should support them" (maybe they are not the same people, but some part of the problem can be attributed to this situation).
Well if the jobs are fake, then IV need not rat them out, but with people saying the law is implemented right, maybe we should help in implementing it in a more "righter" fashion. Why not? I was just trying to point out that people who are poo-pooing us need to look at their own legal standpoint (that is not to say that I consider any of the poster who is going vitriolic against us to have used that method).
A very dissproportionaely large number of EB3ROW and EB3I were adjudicated last June 2007, one ecould say at the expense of EB2-I. It is not unreasonable for EB2-I members to feel this way.
Sorry, you probably did not put it that way, but it comes out as, we suffered yesterday, so you guys should suffer today. If that is the case, then solving the immigration issue should be the last on our minds, since we have suffered this long, maybe all the future applicants should suffer just as much.
But I am sure you did not mean it that way.
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niklshah
05-13 01:00 PM
My AP expires in October 18 th Before how many months it can be renewed??
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anands26
02-13 01:08 PM
Yes. That's right. Anyone giving you a different opinion of things, or telling you that you are not headed in the right direction is anti-immigrant from NumbersUSA. The news for you is that you are not headed anywhere? The worst part is you have no idea where you are headed. What is IV working on now? What are the goals for next 6 weeks?
To give you a bad example of leadership, some core member in this thread wanted us to divert our attention from asking tough questions and told us to attack a Berry guy in some other forum. Let's say all 8000 members went and did that. What will that get us? Is that our mission?
A lot of you are living in lala land. If you don't know how much people are disgusted with IV, just look at the contributing members. I have tried to convince people (Indians and some Chinese) to join IV. People don't. They don't believe IV has the capability to get anything done. A lot of people don't care if IV existed or not. They believe that Congress will get to it when it deems right. Core members were asking a few weeks ago if that is the message people are sending. Yes it is. You are reading the message right. I don't want IV to die. I am suggesting people with leadership skills to come forward and get SOME F**KING RESULTS. That is what is needed. It is do or die situation.
I am not a leader and I don't want to pretend that I am. I ask others who are not to step down and encourage the right people to take leadership positions. I am a very dissatisfied member of IV. Are you satisfied with IV so far? Why doesn't everyone raise these questions? What has caused us to fail so far?
And for the record, I did pay when IV was formed. I don't want to contribute anything more till I believe in it.
To give you a bad example of leadership, some core member in this thread wanted us to divert our attention from asking tough questions and told us to attack a Berry guy in some other forum. Let's say all 8000 members went and did that. What will that get us? Is that our mission?
A lot of you are living in lala land. If you don't know how much people are disgusted with IV, just look at the contributing members. I have tried to convince people (Indians and some Chinese) to join IV. People don't. They don't believe IV has the capability to get anything done. A lot of people don't care if IV existed or not. They believe that Congress will get to it when it deems right. Core members were asking a few weeks ago if that is the message people are sending. Yes it is. You are reading the message right. I don't want IV to die. I am suggesting people with leadership skills to come forward and get SOME F**KING RESULTS. That is what is needed. It is do or die situation.
I am not a leader and I don't want to pretend that I am. I ask others who are not to step down and encourage the right people to take leadership positions. I am a very dissatisfied member of IV. Are you satisfied with IV so far? Why doesn't everyone raise these questions? What has caused us to fail so far?
And for the record, I did pay when IV was formed. I don't want to contribute anything more till I believe in it.
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ameryki
10-07 11:59 PM
Hi,
Here is our situation. I am on H1 and have 485 pending for me and my wife. Both of us also have a valid EAD.
My wife was on H1 too, however since Oct'08 she relinquished her H1 status and took up another job using her EAD. Currently, we are planning to have her AP filed (her earlier AP expired in Dec'08).
Given all this, I have following questions.
a). Are there any risks associated with filing AP.
b). I presume her status has been valid so far... reason I ask is that we didn't do anything special in terms of communicating any official agency, when she jumped the boat from H1 to EAD. Were we supposed to?
c). Do you think I can get her on H4 while she continues to work using her EAD. I guess H4 option is more expensive? Any thoughts?
Appreciate any help/pointers on this.
Thanks
No risk associated with filing AP at all
You did not have to inform any official agency but she should have filed an I9 form (i think thats the form) when she used EAD for work
You cannot be on H4 and EAD either or
Here is our situation. I am on H1 and have 485 pending for me and my wife. Both of us also have a valid EAD.
My wife was on H1 too, however since Oct'08 she relinquished her H1 status and took up another job using her EAD. Currently, we are planning to have her AP filed (her earlier AP expired in Dec'08).
Given all this, I have following questions.
a). Are there any risks associated with filing AP.
b). I presume her status has been valid so far... reason I ask is that we didn't do anything special in terms of communicating any official agency, when she jumped the boat from H1 to EAD. Were we supposed to?
c). Do you think I can get her on H4 while she continues to work using her EAD. I guess H4 option is more expensive? Any thoughts?
Appreciate any help/pointers on this.
Thanks
No risk associated with filing AP at all
You did not have to inform any official agency but she should have filed an I9 form (i think thats the form) when she used EAD for work
You cannot be on H4 and EAD either or
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LostInGCProcess
03-05 03:17 AM
This is what Ron Gotcher had to say about this wonderful organization:
Quote" Not even Congress has been able to rein in the INS/CIS. Repeatedly, they have passed legislation ordering the agency to produce reports on their backlogs - all of which have been ignored with impunity."
So, I think this is just another tactic to discourage people from getting the information thru FIA by charging some imaginary figure of $5k to get some basic information. This is the heights of Arrogance.
Quote" Not even Congress has been able to rein in the INS/CIS. Repeatedly, they have passed legislation ordering the agency to produce reports on their backlogs - all of which have been ignored with impunity."
So, I think this is just another tactic to discourage people from getting the information thru FIA by charging some imaginary figure of $5k to get some basic information. This is the heights of Arrogance.
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starscream
06-14 03:30 PM
Our efforts to get favorable provisons in CIR should continue..AWaiting announcements from IV on this issue
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arrarrgee
07-18 01:15 PM
Its just the Battle that has been won guys.,...the War is still on.. Its just the beginning ..everyone has just started taking us seriously...We gotta trust IV and support them (Ourselves) in every step...
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sammyb
10-01 03:27 PM
Couldn't stop writing this one liner to appreciate you sense of humor :D :D :D - hope we stop wasting IV server space and contribute towards positive discussion than a travel review site ...
The discussion is getting more and more interesting. somebody posted his/her experience with a particular airlines in the begining and lot of us joined in to crucify him/her for having said that. Then saxena came with his private jet and flight atendents and now saxena is getting rounded up. Interestingly UP/Bihar came up (knowingly / unknowingly) almost as a derogatory remark. Then somebody proved that its not UP/Bihar but south indians who are really hipocrites. In between all this somehow the airlines industry people escaped and are laughing. The final take seems to be something like this; We have chosen to be frustrated and if the earth doesn't give us reasons we will look for it in the sun. Either way we will reach our goals. Now let us make a tally of how many reds / greens each person got and find the winner.
Whenever and if at all I ever get to meet the creator divine I will certainly ask him how drunk he/she really was when he created the human brain.
Anyway sorry for interupting the "serious" discussion. Please continue...
The discussion is getting more and more interesting. somebody posted his/her experience with a particular airlines in the begining and lot of us joined in to crucify him/her for having said that. Then saxena came with his private jet and flight atendents and now saxena is getting rounded up. Interestingly UP/Bihar came up (knowingly / unknowingly) almost as a derogatory remark. Then somebody proved that its not UP/Bihar but south indians who are really hipocrites. In between all this somehow the airlines industry people escaped and are laughing. The final take seems to be something like this; We have chosen to be frustrated and if the earth doesn't give us reasons we will look for it in the sun. Either way we will reach our goals. Now let us make a tally of how many reds / greens each person got and find the winner.
Whenever and if at all I ever get to meet the creator divine I will certainly ask him how drunk he/she really was when he created the human brain.
Anyway sorry for interupting the "serious" discussion. Please continue...
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langagadu
08-21 07:55 AM
Same excat thing happend to our family. They had to drive down from North Carolina to get the PIO card from Embassy in Washington.
Hi All,
I applied for my daughter's PIO card and sent all the documents as mentioned in the instructions sheet of the embassy website along with the self addressed stamped envelope. I heard from my other friends that even after you send everything in order, the embassy people would call and say that they did not receive the self addressed stamped envelop. It happened to three of my friends. I am the 4th one. They called today to tell that I did not send the envelope.
The funny part that happened with my friends is that, they all sent $20 and the package came in the very envelope they sent in the first place, that the embassy said they didn't receive.
Did anybody of you also had the same kind of experience or similar incident. If so, please do share.
Why are they doing like that? Do they really think we would do like that, trying to save on an self addressed envelope? It really bothered me for the fact that the lady from the consulate was utterly rude when talking. I am amazed how in the world, The Indian Government is still hiring such people? Of more then a billion population, is that the best person the government of India could find for that customer service post? Its a shame and I am ashamed that such dic*heads working and representing India?
Coming back to the issue...she said sternly, send $20.00 or send envelope stamped otherwise the application would not be processed.
Folks, please let me know where I can complain about this careless attitude of this monster woman. What steps can I take to make sure they don't do that again? I live in TN and I can't fly/drive to Washington DC. The questions is not about the money, but the way they are operating without any ethics is deplorable.
Hoping to hear all your valuable suggestions.
Thank you.
Hi All,
I applied for my daughter's PIO card and sent all the documents as mentioned in the instructions sheet of the embassy website along with the self addressed stamped envelope. I heard from my other friends that even after you send everything in order, the embassy people would call and say that they did not receive the self addressed stamped envelop. It happened to three of my friends. I am the 4th one. They called today to tell that I did not send the envelope.
The funny part that happened with my friends is that, they all sent $20 and the package came in the very envelope they sent in the first place, that the embassy said they didn't receive.
Did anybody of you also had the same kind of experience or similar incident. If so, please do share.
Why are they doing like that? Do they really think we would do like that, trying to save on an self addressed envelope? It really bothered me for the fact that the lady from the consulate was utterly rude when talking. I am amazed how in the world, The Indian Government is still hiring such people? Of more then a billion population, is that the best person the government of India could find for that customer service post? Its a shame and I am ashamed that such dic*heads working and representing India?
Coming back to the issue...she said sternly, send $20.00 or send envelope stamped otherwise the application would not be processed.
Folks, please let me know where I can complain about this careless attitude of this monster woman. What steps can I take to make sure they don't do that again? I live in TN and I can't fly/drive to Washington DC. The questions is not about the money, but the way they are operating without any ethics is deplorable.
Hoping to hear all your valuable suggestions.
Thank you.
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nat23
06-26 02:08 PM
Do we have a list of agreed upon amendments or is it still being negotiated and we are going to see it only on the Senate floor?
amitjoey
06-14 12:48 PM
Congratulations to everyone whose dates have become current. To all gurus. I wanted to know as to how does it work when it comes to procesing I - 485, what dates are important is it the filing date, or the Priority date? If two people file at same time with different priority dates who gets priority, one with earlier priority date or one with earlier reciept notice date or will the cases be treated at same level.
Reciept date will not matter, as you can file on any day in the month of July. Earlier priority date will establish the preference. When dates retrogress, the PDs (priority dates) are again important. The date that is current will get the application processed first. Right now everybody can file, everybody will get EAD, AP but the actual application will be processed according the queue that is established with PD. I am not sure though. Check with lawyer.
Reciept date will not matter, as you can file on any day in the month of July. Earlier priority date will establish the preference. When dates retrogress, the PDs (priority dates) are again important. The date that is current will get the application processed first. Right now everybody can file, everybody will get EAD, AP but the actual application will be processed according the queue that is established with PD. I am not sure though. Check with lawyer.
new2gc
05-18 09:12 AM
to MA lawmakers....
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